With etap, i will almost certainly just sell the everyday di2 bike and buy the etap for installation on the metal frame i love so much. Red etap has separate batteries in each of the shifters and derailleurs. The advantages it had over di2 was clear to me, and i made my decision on that basis. My new road bike will have etap while my new gravel bike will have di2xtr. I read the running dura ace 9000 with sram red etap thread. Mar 24, 2020 shimano launched their first commercial di2 groupset back in 2009 while sram was late to the party with its red etap groupset only available in early 2016. I am buying a new bike and trying to decide if i can justify the step up to etap red vs. As is typical for shimano road di2 controls, the button throws are still ultrashort, and certainly shorter than either campagnolo eps or sram red etap. The lack of gear cables results in a clean look etap fitted bikes. When sram s first red etap system was announced it seemed obvious thered eventually be a nextleveldown wireless electronic shifting system alongside the force mechanical groupset. The science behind it is truly incredible and also programmable to your specific shifting preference see below.
Srams red etap axs 12speed group, the xx1 eagle axs and x01 eagle axs rear derailleurs and rightside axs flatbar. Riding a superbike with the sram etap axs groupset in the. The sram is a sweet looking product and i love the fact that its wireless. I use the etube software on both my iphone and ipad. Its a real game changer for frames built in the predi2 era for the ability to cleanly use modern equipment without drilling holes in your frames. I think shimanos new 9150 dura ace di2 with its swr9160 barend shift switches. Sram comes for shimano grx with new wide range force etap. Axs offers unparalleled control, personalization and insight into your bicycles performance. Road bikes are faster and more capable than ever before. Nov 14, 2015 with sram etap, on approaching an uphill, simply click the right shifter once to initiate the outboard shift and then, while still holding the shifter down, click the left shifter to change the front. Taking technology from the duraace di2 groupset while at the same time refining the previous version of their ultegra di2 groupset shimano have tweaked the ergonomics of their di2 shifters and included more shifting options to enable you to fine tune your. A new gearing while 12speed and etap axs are both cutting edge developments, its the new gear that goes against most against road groupset traditions. I know etap doesnt have wifli, and id like to achieve a little more shifting range than the sram red 110 bcd crankset allows. The groupsets i have a choice between are sram red 22, and the latest iteration of the ultegra di2 with disk brakes.
Now, theyre closer to production, with an initial run of p1 units ready for use in the wild. Sram s 1st tier red etap axs 12speed, electronic disc and rim brake groupsets are competitively priced in the market against shimano s 1st tier dura ace di2 groupsets. Srams red etap system features wireless operation and individual small, lightweight batteries in each gear component. Feb 06, 2019 the initial round of axs products are. Wireless is a nice to have, but it comes with a very heavy price tag. But if youre after electronic in general, then youve got shimano di2, sram red etap, and campys eps. I rode the sram 11speed wireless red etap for several months in the summer of 2017 on a dogma f8 and have used both sram and shimano mechanical groupsets and components over the years. If youre building up a frame from scratch, nothing is simpler than fitting sram red etap. In this video i will explain why i went the red etap route. Bicycle component manufacturers shimano and sram both offer a range of products from entrylevel to highend competition components.
Shimano r9150 di2 vs sram red etap di2 is shimanos terminology for its electronic componentry, whether on road with duraace and ultegra, or on the mountain bike xtr and. And then finally the main sram red axs presentation. The 2017 shimano dura ace di2 9150 groupset is a topoftheline electronicshift road group. Srams hoods work but are a little bigger than rival hoods. The first step is deciding whether or not you want it wireless. Sram force etap axs and shimano ultegra di2 are both hugely capable electronic groupsets that offer much of the experience of their respective makers red and duraace flagships, at considerably. The p1 designation, as explained by srams technical marketing manager nate newton. Mar 02, 2017 srams red etap system features wireless operation and individual small, lightweight batteries in each gear component. Dec 02, 2015 there is no argument that sram have simplified shifting with red etap. The sram red etap axs disc groupset with quarq power meter chainring set. Sramss 1x was preferred by 8 percent of you, so, sram and shimano are in a dead heat among slowtwitchers with shimano a slight winner among electronic shift systems. About 500 of you answered a flash poll recently and 42 percent of you said di2 was for you on your next tri bike. You can use shimanos new etube project software on a pc, ipad or smartphone to set any.
Somehow, it preprograms it out or selftrims before you ever get any rub. But if youre after electronic in general, then youve got shimano di2, sram red etap, and campys. Tiagra and 105 are mid, and ultegra and dura ace are high. This groupset shifts from a more traditional 11speed cassette arrangement to a 12speed cassette configuration. Campagnolo e lectronic p ower s hift while electronic shifting from campagnolo and shimano have relatively few generations of design iterations compared to longestablished mechanical shifting. Sram red etap vs shimano di2 page 5 weight weenies.
From the moment shimano first introduced di2 its shifting has been spoton. Di2 software via pc mac is not supported and only use the wireless. Apr, 2016 the first step is deciding whether or not you want it wireless. Shimano hierarchy claris, sora, tiagra, 105, ultegra, dura ace shimano is an easy hierarchy to split into levels. Im considering buying another bike, and for the first time getting electronic shifting, but i dont know which of the abovementioned groupsets is better. You bolt the various parts in place, you pair them up and thats it. Further, shimano has made it easy to update your firmware and change your shift. After all, shimano very quickly followed duraace di2 with an ultegra version and campagnolos chorus eps shifting followed hot on the heels of record and super. Sram red etap axs 2x flat mount hrd electronic groupset. I was told the space inside an 11sp and 10 sp chain is the same. Sram force etap axs and shimano ultegra di2 are both hugely. Ive built and tested other bikes, removed and replaced components to set up my bikes for different events more frequently than i care to remember, and ridden. Di2 runs from a single battery thats usually hidden inside the seat post with cables running to the various components. Rotor elbows its way into a small market and expectations are high.
Sram red etap vs shimano di2 page 4 weight weenies. Sram announce red etap axs, a 12speed wireless road groupset. Sram etap shifting with two shifters simultaneously shimano dura ace di2 ultimate convenience. Shimano launched their first commercial di2 groupset back in 2009 while sram was late to the party with its red etap groupset only available in early 2016. Yes it does shift a second slower than shimano di2. Riding a superbike with the sram etap axs groupset in.
Srams red etap axs 12speed group, the xx1 eagle axs and x01 eagle axs rear derailleurs and rightside axs flatbar shifter, the rockshox reverb axs. When we attended the official sram red etap launch last fall, we provided an indepth look at the design and development process and first impressions. In 2009 shimano made its dura ace di2 electronic groupset available. Orbit chain management and the flattop chain give a reassuringly quiet, secure and smooth ride. The days of cables are gone with srams red etap wireless electronic road groupset. Today sram announces their latest red groupset lineup, sram red etap axs for road and offroad. One of the big factors between di2 and etap as ive been told is how. Prior to this, mavic had also tried twice to introduce electronic shifting in the 90s with the zap in 1992 and mektronic in 1999. Shimano ultegra di2 vs duraace di2 vs sram red etap weight.
We are using 11 speed da 9000 chain and cassette i read this option is slightly quicker with etap and quieter than sram red parts. What are the main differences in sram and shimano top of. With the availability of sram red and more recently, force etap axs, ill be updating this article in the coming weeks once i get a complete understanding of how they work. Simply bolt on the components, pair them up using a 30 second process, and then tune the derailleurs as per usual. Installing the new sram red etap axs onto the ventum ns1 road bike and taking it for a ride. Jan 24, 2020 i rode the sram 11speed wireless red etap for several months in the summer of 2017 on a dogma f8 and have used both sram and shimano mechanical groupsets and components over the years. While shimanos system relies on a small upshift button on the righthand side and a larger paddle for downshifting, also on the right, and independent front derailleur buttons on the left, sram simply works like this. I havent riden the ultegra setup yet but will before finalising my decision, but have used shimano in the past. Taking technology from the duraace di2 groupset while at the same time refining the previous version of their ultegra di2 groupset shimano have tweaked the ergonomics of their di2 shifters and included more shifting options to enable you to fine tune your setup.
This season, ive spent the majority of my miles aboard sram red etap hrd the same wireless groupset, but with hydraulic disc brakes for todays topshelf road disc bikes. It also eschews any mechanical only version of the. If the answer is yes, then your decision has been made. Di2 and etap are both quality, dependable electronic shifting systems. Running ultegra 6700 with sram red etap i read the running dura ace 9000 with sram red etap thread. Shimano di2 and srams red etap, topend electronic groupsets will. Its shifting is faster, more precise, more predictable than sram s etap or campagnolo s electronic shifting for that matter. The downside to srams red etap disc brake system has always been its large. Imo, at the high end of things, theyre all pretty comparable. My first impression is, sram has finally caught up with the shimano di2 in terms of customisation and features.
It really comes personal preference and ergonomics. There is no argument that sram have simplified shifting with red etap. Home forum triathlon forum sram etap vs ultegra di2. Sram and shimanos secondtier electronic disc groupsets go headtohead, comparing weight, cost and performance. The downside to sram s red etap disc brake system has always been its large hoods, especially when compared to shimano s duraace r9170. Along the way, the company switches to an xdxdr driver body which. Jan 18, 2016 when we attended the official sram red etap launch last fall, we provided an indepth look at the design and development process and first impressions. In order to help you set up and configure your di2 system shimano has made several software packages available for android, ios and pc. My new road bike will have etap while my new gravel bike will have di2 xtr. Sram is based in chicago and is focused on making only highend bicycles and bicycle parts. Mar 26, 2019 shimano duraace di2 vs sram red etap axs. Will wait and see how it does when its released to the public. Shimano v sram v campagnolofight merlin cycles blog. Functioning on srams own wireless airea technology, this cuttingedge groupset makes setup incredibly easy.
Simply download shimanos new etube project software on a pc. We compared the latest shimano dura ace di2, ultegra di2 and sram. The ultegra r8050 di2 groupset is the latest development in the evolution of the electronic groupset from shimano. Why i think etap is better is the shifting buttons. Functioning on sram s own wireless airea technology, this cuttingedge groupset makes setup incredibly easy. With sram etap, on approaching an uphill, simply click the right shifter once to initiate the outboard shift and then, while still holding the shifter down, click the left shifter to change the front. Now that shimano di2, sram etap, and campy eps electronic groupsets.
I am a casual rider but i want an outstanding experience and plan to keep the bike a long time maybe my last bike since i am getting older so i. I think the customizable shifting of di2 is a very much under. If i understand correctly, the new shimano cranks are using a 110 bcd and are able to be compatible with 5034, 5236, and 5339. What we can say is that whichever one you choose, you wont be disappointed, whether thats the traditional di2 and etap versions or the discbrake versions. The single biggest difference from di2 is that red etap shifting is wireless. Di2 has 4 buttons 2 on the left hand shift the front derailleur. When i rode etap, it seemed slower but were talking milliseconds compared to di2. Sram red etap gamechanger is an oftused term in cycling but in the recent evolution of the groupset, there is one innovation that truly deserves the title. The windows version of the etube software supports windows 7 and newer. Brakeshift levers, front and rear disc calipers, front and rear derailleurs 5. Happy shifting browse the full range of shimano di2 components here browse the full range of shimano di2 equipped road bikes here jan 24, 2020 electronics performance.
The latest instance of this highperformance championship group has some refinements and some larger changes. What amazed me the first time i used di2 is the autotrim of the front derailleur. Compare shimano duraace r9150 di2 and sram red etap. I have had a chance to ride the sram setup, and love the doubletap system. While shimano s system relies on a small upshift button on the righthand side and a larger paddle for downshifting, also on the right, and independent front derailleur buttons on the left, sram simply works like this. How to choose the best sram road bike groupset for you. Force etap axss relatively muted aesthetics were something i noted when i put the groupset headtohead with shimano ultegra di2 at the start of the year. The days of cables are gone with sram s red etap wireless electronic road groupset.
As soon as they announced the groupset, i was a fan. The etap system is a great example of how sram innovate and try to come up the new alternatives. Campagnolo eps or shimano d igital i ntegrated i ntelligence vs. It also eschews any mechanical only version of the setup, going with only their wireless etap shifting option. Of course, i will need an 11sp cassette and chain, but can i use my 6700 crankset with etap.
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